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60: Dad Talk on a High-Speed Future

Mark, Darrell, and Mike settle in with an edible gift and go deep on how they actually use AI day to day — ChatGPT vs. Google, drafting emails, generating images, and how to spot AI-polished writing creeping into LinkedIn posts and cold DMs. They get real abou...

Show Notes

Mark, Darrell, and Mike settle in with an edible gift and go deep on how they actually use AI day to day — ChatGPT vs. Google, drafting emails, generating images, and how to spot AI-polished writing creeping into LinkedIn posts and cold DMs. They get real about whether the next generation will lose critical-thinking skills growing up dependent on it, before flipping the lens onto cannabis: nearly a decade after Prop 64, why does the industry still feel stuck in neutral while AI sprints ahead? The guys close out in "God mode," imagining the wildest cannabis product they'd launch if they ran their own business — Willy Wonka everlasting-gobstopper edible included — before the recording cuts out mid-idea.

Episode Transcript

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Mark: [00:01:00] Hey, what’s up everybody? And welcome back to the latest edition of the Puff Provisions Podcast. I am one of three of your wonderful, handsome hosts, @puffprovisionsmark, joined as usual by @puffprovisionsdaryl and @puffprovisionsmike. Good evening, gentlemen. How are you? And it’s okay. Yeah, see. It’s li- it’s okay.

You need a hug. You need a hug. That’s what you need, right, buddy? You need a hug. You need a hug

Mike: kicking my ass

Mark: The world’s kicking your ass. Yeah, the world’s kicking a lot of people’s asses right now, mine included. I’m not gonna lie. I’m not gonna lie. Struggle busing in the area of tech, uh, in a world of AI. ~~Um, ~~not a fun ride right now for me, but I’m okay with it.

I’m okay. I’m down, but I’m not out. You know why I’m not out? ‘Cause I got this

Mike: Oh

Darrell: sugar plums

Mark: Thank you to March and Ash. Not officially sponsored, but would like to be sponsored one day. But a [00:02:00] nice gift from them from being a guest speaker on the Cannabis Enlightened podcast, so I got a nice little stash from them. And with the kind of conversation we’re gonna have tonight, notice I sneak peeked into AI.

I think it deserved one of these little edibles. Says it’s an indica, so if I fall asleep on you guys during this recording, I apologize. So you take lead or someone just hang up on me, okay? So here we go. Cheers. Tonight, gentlemen. Hey, I’m sorry. I’m being rude. Mike said he’s fine. He needs a hug. Daryl, how are you?

Darrell: I’m good.

Mike: He’s high. He is high.

Mark: You’re gonna hear me chewing. You’re gonna hear a little ASMR

Mike: you smoke flower?

Darrell: Yeah. Yeah, I did.

Mike: Okay

Darrell: To my,

Mark: That’s nice. That’s nice. How’s everything going?

Darrell: though because it’s like vapor, right? So there’s not really a lot of smoke. So sometimes I, I swear like it’s not even on.

Mark: Mm-hmm.

Mike: Oh,

Darrell: like sucking on air.

Mike: yeah. Yeah

Mark: And was it to the point where y- [00:03:00] your face turned red ‘cause you didn’t even know if it was working?

Darrell: man. It was like, I’m

Mark: Ah.

Darrell: I don’t feel like I’m pulling anything,

Mark: Is it one of those, ~~um… ~~Which kind of vape is it? ~~Like, ~~is it one of those ones that look like USB drives or is something a little bigger?

Darrell: like— Yeah, it looks like

Mark: It’s like a vape pen, little stick

Darrell: ~~No, ~~no, it’s actually square, so it looks ~~like a, ~~like

Mike: It’s a ~~dryer, ~~dryer bait

Darrell: There you go. Dry herb vape. A

Mark: Okay,

Darrell: Dry

Mark: I gotcha.

Darrell: vape

Mark: Does it have Bluetooth? Is it connected to the internet

Darrell: No, it’s pretty simple tech. It’s just a power button and then an up and down switch to the temp.

Mark: ~~Mm-hmm. ~~Ah, okay

Darrell: Yeah. ~~Well-made, ~~I would say. Battery lasts long

Mark: That’s cool. That’s cool. But you know me, with the exception of tonight and you seeing me obviously pop that little bit of an edible, I’m always gonna s- just grind up some flower and do it

Darrell: me who made it because I do not remember

Mark: Frankly, that’s the one thing about this. I don’t remember any of the brands unless they’re edibles, to be [00:04:00] perfectly honest. Because

Darrell: to sponsor us, whoever

Mark: do, but they’ve gotta be … ~~I, ~~I know, but the, here’s the thing. I, but I can’t, I cannot do with these strangers because these brands come and go, and the only ones that stick in my head are the edible ones because obviously it’s the branding, and the branding is most impressionable with edibles because of the packaging and the design and stuff like that, so it sticks in my head a little bit more

Darrell: looks like I’m eating candy.

Mark: Yeah, exactly.

So it’s like I can remember those

Darrell: aren’t s- there aren’t more cases of kids eating edibles because the packaging looks like, it looks like candy

Mark: I’m sure there are, it’s just that it’s been … I bet that story’s been saturated so many times. I bet you if you ask one of your doctor or nurse friends in the ER, they’d probably tell you that night overnight that, ~~you know, ~~unfortunately, and I don’t condone this and I know you guys don’t too, uh, children consuming, uh, edibles on accident.

Darrell: though because, ‘cause

Mark: The [00:05:00] children, right?

Darrell: this— Yeah, they’re going through this trip, they’re scared,

Mark: Oh

Darrell: and like they don’t know how long it’s gonna last

Mark: Oh yeah, they’re pro- they’re probably stuck in a Thunderdome so hard that it’s just like,

Darrell: I

Mark: it is

Darrell: what, how do you treat that though? ~~Like, you know, ~~just ride it out, drink some water, close your eyes.

Mark: ~~you know, ~~not being a doctor myself, I’m sure that ~~you, ~~you still gotta let that stuff pass through your system, and if their bodies haven’t been tempered for ~~it, ~~I don’t know. I think ~~it’s, ~~it’s a point of no return and, you

Darrell: Will ruin your mind

Mark: you will be parent-shamed for it. So that is a thing, as three dads here saying it, keep your edibles out of reach.

~~Put them in, ~~put them in your edible cabinet, if you will, and lock them up. But tonight we’re not gonna be talking about edibles and the design of it all, although that should be a topic for next time because, again, after so many years, I can’t remember a good vape brand or anything like that, or even a good flower brand.

~~Um, ~~but definitely edibles, they stick. Tonight we’re gonna talk about AI. Tonight we’re gonna talk [00:06:00] about AI, and I know, without playing foolish, that you guys use AI in some way, shape, or form. I’d like to know what you use AI for, or what do you do with AI, if anything? ~~Do you, ~~do you do it on a personal level?

Is it more for work, or are you just experimenting with it? ~~Um, ~~what are you doing with it right now as an everyday person? ~~Um, ~~I’ll start off. I use ChatGPT quite a bit, um, pretty much for everything Yeah, I pretty much use it for everything, personally and professionally

Mike: so did it, um, instead of Google searching, you used ChatGPT?

Mark: I primarily use ChatGPT now, with the exception of Google does have AI baked into their search now ~~kind of ~~mentality

Mike: ~~if you, ~~if you wanted to know about, uh, Fourth of July, right? When did Fourth of July start? You would go to ChatGPT as opposed to just googling it

Mark: No, for ~~that, ~~that’s too simple, so I still go to Google. But

Mike: Okay. Okay.

Mark: if I [00:07:00] wanted to do something that required a little bit more critical thinking like, ~~“Help me, ~~help me explain July 4th to a five-year-old,” then I would go to ChatGPT.

Mike: Gotcha. Gotcha.

Mark: If I wanted to, if I wanted something to spit hard facts straight from the machine, then I would go Google search.

But under the… If I had to have a little bit more critical thinking, then I would do that

Mike: ~~yeah, ~~yeah.

Mark: kind of thing.

Mike: Okay,

Mark: Yeah. So that’s ~~like ~~one of my primary examples ever since this ChatGPT thing came out. ~~Um, ~~and then obviously recently I’ve been abusing it for… Yes, I’m gonna say I’ve been abusing it. I’ve been abusing it for, uh, making images, right?

~~You know, ~~like we’ve been, ~~you know, ~~your little avatars and stuff like that, or those Japanese-looking animations and things of that nature. Now that it’s capable of doing that, I’ve been doing a little bit of that too, just for fun, and all of it for free. Needless to say, it’s been convenient, and as being a budget-friendly cheap father, I’ve not jumped onto the $20 a [00:08:00] month bandwagon.

But, ~~you know, ~~let me know, what are your thoughts on that so far ~~as we, ~~as we warm our brains up into this?

Darrell: ~~mean, ~~I don’t wanna jinx it, but the fact that you get so much for nothing is probably the biggest appeal. ~~Like, ~~you got like a super computer in the ba- in the palm of your hand, and it’s free.

Mark: It’s free

Darrell: there’s not… ~~Like, ~~you can type up all sorts of queries. There’s no limitations on the free version. It’s

Mark: yes

Darrell: what do I get if I do pay for it? ~~Like, ~~is there like something crazy that it comes with that, know That they have. But ~~I mean, ~~I’m just surprised, like you get so much ~~for, ~~for nothing it works really well. Like, I

Mark: So

Darrell: it for everything

Mark: what you just did was basically put a cap. Now the people at OpenAI are just like, “Ah, then we’ll cap Daryl.” Great. You jinxed it. Just kidding.

Darrell: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Mark: no, but I have— I’ve actually pushed it to the limit where it warns me now that, “Hey, you’ve reached your limit for the day. ~~Um, ~~come back [00:09:00] tomorrow at whatever o’clock.”

~~Well, ~~I’m doing both now. It even does it with text. Yeah. So-

Mike: right? Is it like 20 queries or

Mark: Yeah, some-something like that. But here’s what happens. So whenever I hit that limit on the text queries, what happens next is that it says it downgrades the model, so it’s a little less what—

Mike: model

Mark: trained or a little less smart or whatever. So my— the next answers aren’t gonna be as robust or accurate as the previous one.

But I don’t care. As long as the conversation doesn’t stop, I’m happy with it. You know what I’m saying?

Darrell: I didn’t re- I

Mike: Yeah

Darrell: know that. I didn’t,

Mark: yeah, it’s-

Darrell: I didn’t know there was a cap on, ~~uh… Like, ~~the way you describe it is the more you use it, the stupider it gets

Mark: ~~Well, ~~to, to Mike’s point, he did point out that I do … It’s ~~the, ~~the image one definitely has a cap. It says

Darrell: Yes.

Mark: tomorrow.”

Darrell: Yep. Mm-hmm

Mark: text version, m- man, you could go all … You could talk to it all night if you wanted to. And yeah, eventually- It changes

Mike: changes the

Mark: it

Mike: model,

Mark: automatically … yeah, it just changes it automatically

Darrell: control that now. You can… Y- [00:10:00] there’s ~~like ~~three versions of that. You can dictate which version you wanna talk to

Mark: Yeah, f- and ~~I, I do, ~~I do t- change up the model every now and again. ~~Um, ~~only when necessary, but I try not to think too much. I just keep typing my way through.

Darrell: It, that, that thing is so powerful. Like,

Mark: oh, dude

Darrell: using it for, like, what it’s really meant for, right?

Mark: But who says it’s meant for this or meant for that? ‘Cause we’re in an e- an era of time where it’s so undefined

Darrell: ~~Right? It’s, ~~it’s ~~like, ~~yeah, e-exactly. ~~It’s, ~~it’s really based on the person, right? The person using it

Mark: And ~~what, ~~what, ~~what, ~~what do you need it for kind of mentality

Darrell: Yeah, exactly. And ~~so, ~~like for myself, ~~you know, ~~that thing is like my personal, like, like, ~~uh, ~~what’s it called? ~~Like ~~shrink. I’ll ask it like questions and think about ~~like, ~~“Oh, you know what? What’s this about?” ~~Like, ~~“Tell me like if Trump does this, what…” Like we have conversations. It’s

Mark: Yeah. You, you-

Darrell: like during my lunch break. I’m like talking to ChatGPT and ~~like, ~~like from its opinion, which is kinda weird.

Mark: Man, I wanted to [00:11:00] stay on topic, but now I’m gonna go off the rails ‘cause this is obviously a cannabis podcast and I’m trying to fuse the two ideas together. But

Darrell: We’ll get

Mark: m-

Darrell: We’ll

Mark: we’ll get there. Okay, I don’t wanna rush into it. ~~Let’s, ~~let’s have it like progress organically because ~~y- ~~y- you, uh, brought up a good point ‘cause it’s your psychologist or you’re talking and speculating with it as if it were another person ~~that you could, ~~that you could, uh…

What’s the word I’m looking for here? That you could have a discussion with, basically. You could have a thought-provoking discussion with a tiny bit of critical thinking.

Darrell: much. Yeah,

Mark: All right.

Darrell: much.

Mark: Um,

Darrell: I don’t… I— Go ahead

Mark: Does that mean How do I say this? This is a real struggle because ~~I don’t, ~~I don’t even know how to really define how to use these tools yet, even though, ~~you know, ~~the people that make this say, “Oh, us- use it to make your creative, uh, projects or whatever.”

But

Darrell: you just like, that’s what makes it like great, right?

Mark: Yeah

Darrell: the limitations are based on the user,

Mark: That’s true

Darrell: ~~that ~~AI model is [00:12:00] limitless,

Mark: I could see that. I, yes, I could

Darrell: one else. it’s only based on the limits of the user. So like

Mark: Yeah, whatever I’m prompting in

Darrell: if I use it for only, ~~you know, ~~what to put in greeting cards, like that’s my limit. But then someone like yourself, limit is graphic design,

Mark: Yeah

Darrell: so this, the, uh, the reach of AI is like limitless.

Mark: I hear you on that. So I am kinda limiting myself when I say this, and that is a good point to make. I guess the other thing to consider too is knowing that it is limited by however you prompt it or whatever you’re thinking at that time. As this stuff grows year over year and we have no choice to b- but to be around it kind of mentality, do you think that next generation, in other words, your kids, my kids, everybody else’s kids, they’re gonna be using it a lot to bend the rules in the education system?

Darrell: That, yeah. [00:13:00] Or, ~~you know, ~~even worse, ~~they’ll be, ~~they’ll be conquered by it, right? Meaning like they’ll be so reliant on it that they can’t think on their own. They need, “Hey, I have, ~~you know, ~~the chicken or the beef? ChatGPT,” kind of thing. Like

Mark: think it’d get that far where ~~they can’t, ~~they can’t make their own choice?

Darrell: it, uh, if they, if, if this growth rate remains go- it’s going up and it’s constant, then yeah.

I mean,

Mark: Yeah.

Darrell: to that point, right?

Mark: I’m not even being cynical because I could see that, because if we’re already trapped by, uh, our scrolling and our doom scrolling and our phones and this whole terminology of brain rot, I could see that happening quite a bit. ~~Um, ~~don’t worry, it’s okay. If they come into view, you know I’m just gonna put a nice sticker on top of them.

It’ll be fine. It’ll be fine. ~~Um, ~~but my thing is, Mike, what do you use it for?

Mike: ~~Uh, ~~right now I rarely u-use it actually

Mark: Ooh, why not?

Darrell: Because

Mark: [00:14:00] year one

Darrell: here, right, Mike? It’s all

Mike: the dome, dog

Mark: really the T-101? ~~He’s the, ~~he’s the T-101

Darrell: in here.

Mike: the model.

Darrell: Yeah.

Mike: the model

Mark: my goodness

Darrell: right here.

Mark: The unreleased version. The unreleased version. Okay. So you have no, you haven’t found any use case for your lifestyle design right now?

Mike: yeah. So like when I write code for ~~like ~~SQL or something like that, I’ve, I’ve input it there, you

Mark: Mm-hmm.

Mike: pump me out something,

Mark: Mm-hmm.

Mike: more efficient

Mark: Mm-hmm

Mike: or to even solve, uh, a problem, ~~you know, ~~I’ll throw it in there. But that’s it. Right now it’s a little— It’s rare.

Darrell: It’s wild

Mike: but ~~I, ~~I use it. I don’t use it to draft, uh, like emails, I know a lot of people do that. I know a lot of people do that. I personally don’t.

Darrell: Why

Mike: ~~well, ~~first of all,

Mark: I don’t either, by the way. Yeah.

Mike: think of the prompt ~~is already, ~~is

Mark: Oh.

Mike: work,

Mark: Yeah.

Mike: To think of the prompt

Mark: Very true. Very true

Mike: ‘Cause you have to enter information in

Mark: Yes

Mike: And then also what you wanna say. You have to [00:15:00] just, ~~you know. then, ~~then you verify, read it. “Oh, I don’t like that. Let me…” you’re already working. It’s not like it’s not work, right?

Mark: Right

Mike: is a simple task for me,

Mark: Got it.

Mike: right?

Mark: Yes

Mike: an easy task. I feel like ~~I’ve, ~~I’ve…

~~I’m, ~~I’m pretty good at communicating,

Mark: I’m 50/50. Yeah. I’m 50/50.

Mike: sure

Mark: So ~~like, ~~no, it pretty much, I agree with you on this part, on the, like, communicating part. It works really well for me to just do it organically, um, with people that I know or know of, so I have a broad sense of who they are already. ~~Um, ~~but if it’s a, i-if it’s a, if it’s a stranger, if it’s totally like a stranger danger kinda email that I don’t know, what I tend to do these days is I still write what I wanna write,

Mike: Yeah.

Mark: but then if I’m feeling really insecure about what I’m about to send, I throw it into ChatGPT to make it more polished.

Mike: it

Mark: Yeah, to put polish.

Mike: sound more professional?” Yeah, yeah,

Mark: Put polish, basically [00:16:00] spit, spit and polish it kinda mentality.

Mike: yeah.

Mark: But if it was just emails between you and I, and, and me and Daryl here, ~~I would not, ~~I would not have AI intervention whatsoever. That’s easy.

Mike: Yeah

Mark: But can you imagine? I feel like that, for that, for our generation, I think we’re fine.

It’s that next generation and the generation that comes after, it’s like I feel like that atrophy, that level of atrophy is coming, and they just don’t know, they don’t know it yet.

Darrell: It’s gonna, it’s gonna be a big shock to

Mark: Yeah. And that’s why I guess I kinda tied it into the education system, like h- what does that look like?

Mike: what is annoying?

Mark: ~~Hmm. ~~Go for it

Mike: it back to emails. You know you guys all have that one coworker who communicate as well, doesn’t know as much, ~~um, uh, ~~like ~~a, ~~a, a fairly limited vocabulary, right?

Mark: Yes. ~~Yes, ~~yes, ~~yes, ~~yes, yes. Yes

Mike: know if ~~you’ve, ~~you’ve gotten this, Mark, since you’ve, uh, haven’t been in the, uh, workspace for a little bit.

Mark: Mm-hmm.

Mike: but I’m sure you’ve seen it where that person with a limited vocabulary ~~and, ~~and communication skills, [00:17:00] right? They’d be sending out trash emails back in, uh, 2019, now sends emails like it was written by the freaking writer of the president

Mark: Yeah. ~~Yeah, ~~yeah. Actually, no, I, for, um, actually

Mike: You know you, come on.

Darrell: dumb. You

Mike: fooling nobody.

You ain’t f- yeah, you ain’t

Mark: This

Mike: nobody

Mark: definitely not through emails, but here’s where I’ve been noticing it. It is, uh, I… ~~It, ~~it, it is peppered. ~~The, ~~the, the amount of AI-polished bullshit is peppered through cold DMs that I get on LinkedIn and posts that I see on LinkedIn,

Mike: Oh,

Mark: I just… I c- I’m just, like, it… You can just tell by the spacing, the format, and there are people going around trying to, ~~like, uh, ~~demystify it all.

~~Like, ~~if that was organically written by a person or a thing. There’s ~~like… ~~I saw something floating around about em dashes and things like that, and I’m just like, “I don’t give a shit.” ~~Uh, ~~what I just know is just the moment it reads too fluidly, too well, I [00:18:00] already know. Because it was never like that before ChatGPT.

Like, when I would read posts, like, yeah, it was still eloquent, it was all that good stuff, but it was just not smooth. And now I see it, I’m like-

Darrell: ~~it’s, ~~it’s ~~like, um, ~~get this from— ~~Uh, ~~this is a discussion I’ve had ~~with, ~~with some of my coworkers,

Mark: Mm-hmm.

Darrell: how some of them know when someone uses ChatGPT in their emails

Mark: Mm-hmm

Mike: yeah. That for sure

Darrell: it loses that personal touch. And

Mark: It does

Darrell: it’s— And for myself,

Mark: Yeah.

Darrell: see it.

Mark: Yeah

Darrell: to me, like, that’s ~~like ~~all, ~~you know, ~~help me write something like, you know,

Mark: Yeah.

Darrell: on how to do something

Mark: Which is why I say m- which is why I’m 50/50. That’s why I agree with Mike, because there is that part of me where I have to— where I do engage and prompt like that, where it’s just

Darrell: Yeah

Mark: “I really don’t know this person, so blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.” But for anything else, I always write it down, and it’s only when I feel insecure, that’s when I start to, to really kick in with ChatGPT ~~to do the, ~~to do the final,

Mike: yeah.

Mark: polish.[00:19:00]

But yeah, like ~~I, ~~I, I’m not gonna exhaust my mind to demystify anything that I see because I’m just gonna assume it’s all AI already kind of mentality.

Mike: Yeah

Mark: but yeah, I totally get that oil and water contrast where this person was not coherent on a body of work in their email, and then all of a sudden it’s ~~like ~~written ~~like it’s, ~~like it’s, uh, like it’s English AP, right?

It’s ~~like, ~~wow. Wow. Yeah, exactly. And y- here’s the thing. Isn’t with… Do you guys— I suspect you guys have like Outlook or something as one of your email tools. Yeah? Yeah.

Mike: yeah.

Mark: That stuff’s baked in with AI already. L- Outlook itself has an AI agent for that, for, for…

Darrell: called,

Mark: It’s stronger than autocomplete. It’s a co-pilot or something like that

Darrell: It’s ~~like ~~Bing or something like that. It’s

Mark: Something like that, but you get where I’m coming from,

Darrell: Yeah

Mike: Uh,

Mark: where it’s in there.

At any rate, it kinda leads me into this. It’s just the level of convenience, the level of all this, and the level of all that with technology is in stark contrast to [00:20:00] cannabis. Cannabis seems like it’s being left behind. W- The last election cycle didn’t legalize any more states. It seems honestly that, ~~you know, ~~I don’t know this ‘cause I’m not a professional inside of the industry, but as a consumer, I’m ~~kind of like, you know, ~~it’s kinda died off a little bit.

It’s ~~kind of ~~conventional and stuff like that. Not died off, but it’s been ~~kind of ~~like on a … It’s been neutral, if you will.

Darrell: yeah, it’s plateaued

Mark: Plateaued, there you go. Thank you. That’s a better word versus what I’ve got. It’s kinda plateaued or stagnated. I still enjoy. I still love to consume. I love to relax with it. No worries, no harm, no foul.

But it’s ~~like ~~two opposing ends of the s- of the spectrum, where AI’s ~~like ~~going hyper fast, where you can’t keep up with it, whereas with cannabis, it’s kinda like slow as molasses. It’s ki- ~~You know? ~~It’s the, it … The year’s 2025 at the time of this recording, and it feels like 2016, 2017 kinda progress, right?

That’s my [00:21:00] impression of it as being a consumer, being ~~a, ~~a shopper,

Mike: yeah, yeah

Mark: What do you guys think of that? ~~Like, ~~what is your personal feeling towards it all, knowing that ~~you, ~~you aren’t hypocrites to the plant? You know it’s got its place in your life and where it doesn’t have a place in your life.

But just overall, ~~like, as, ~~as we grow older as adults, ~~are you, ~~are you surprised with where we are, especially when we voted yes on this thing like nine years ago?

Mike: Damn, what, nine years ago?

Mark: Prop six, Prop 64 was 2016

Mike: Oh, the craft

Mark: Anybody take the floor because I feel like nothing’s really moved except

Darrell: it’s the same

Mark: acceptance

Darrell: it’s the same old stuff, right? I

Mark: Mm-hmm

Darrell: just has a different face, ~~I guess. I mean, ~~it’s like each state… It’s funny how ~~like ~~no-none of the states have ~~like ~~talked to each other ‘cause it’s like they all went through the same problem of getting it. ~~You know, ~~peop- they’re like peop- the people were asking for it and like just, ~~you know, ~~they weren’t listening to [00:22:00] them

Mark: Yeah

Darrell: then when you get started up, it’s like, how do you cultivate this thing? Yeah.

Mark: ~~Well, ~~it would, you can always

Darrell: ~~It’s, ~~it’s, there’s no, um, I’m trying to think of the word, but it’s like,

Mike: Collaboration

Darrell: yeah, there’s no colla- collaboration. Everyone’s going on in their own separate directions,

Mark: I could see that. Yeah

Darrell: I think it’s because it’s a money thing. Like they do understand the amount of money that it can bring in, and so that’s why I feel like that’s the only reason why it’s gotten this far,

Mark: Mm-hmm.

Darrell: governments figured, “Oh, we can monetize and make, ~~you know, ~~make a lot of money off this.

It’d be another tax.”

Mark: But the fact is that’s the obvious, uh, formula, but no one’s really pulled the trigger on moving that type of initiative forward

Darrell: like you said, there’s nothing really… There’s nothing groundbreaking yet

Mark: I agree.

Mike: it’s

Mark: I agree. ~~That’s, ~~that’s a good one

Mike: I think the reason, ~~I, I mean, ~~until we, until the big brands to invest, like really wanna [00:23:00] invest, right? Until they really wanna invest, this is gonna be slow-moving

Darrell: Yep. Kinda, you know, yeah

Mike: the big corporations make things, right?

Darrell: Yeah

Mark: true, and they’re the ones with all the cash. They’ve got the capital.

Mike: ones with all the cash, right?

Mark: Yeah

Mike: if they wanna be like, “You know what? We’re gonna dump in half a billion dollars or a bill- ~~you know, uh, ~~20 billion, $30 billion into ~~the, ~~the development of whatever they need to do,” they’re— a-and sit on the loss for a little bit,

Mark: Mm-hmm.

Mike: ~~Uh, ~~gonna be slow. It’s gonna be real slow because there’s no reason to pay off the politicians, you know?

Mark: That’s true. And ~~I, ~~I, I don’t wanna ~~like ~~beat this like a dead horse, ‘cause we could talk about Schedule, the lack of Schedule I and federal l- illegalization and all that stuff. That’s obvious, and there’s no need to really repeat that at this, ~~for this, ~~for this, uh, centered conversation, ‘cause you know me, ~~I wanna, ~~I wanna make this a little bit more fun, a little bit more imaginative, if you will, because I ushered in a little bit of the AI conversation.

So for the remainder of the [00:24:00] night, I wanna ease our brains and have a little bit more fun playfully with it, knowing that the speed of AI goes faster than the speed of light, if that’s even possible. I get all the physicists and the nerds are like, “Nothing’s faster than the speed of light.” ~~Well, ~~yeah, okay Sh- okay, Sheldon Cooper, this isn’t Big Bang Theory.

~~Um, ~~but I want us to have a little bit of fun, that I’m gonna empower each of you to have God mode right now, and that cannabis moves as fast or if not faster than the progression of AI. ~~What is, ~~what is the first thing, novel thing you would do if you owned your own cannabis business? What would be the first, um, thing you do in your…

Oh, that’s a very hard one. Not thing you do, that’s, that’s too fuzzy of a question. What kind, what is your innovation? All-

Darrell: Yeah. ~~I’m, ~~I’m thinking… ~~So, ~~so what— It just popped in my mind and I’m like, “Yeah, that works.” that’s ~~like, ~~I’m thinking like Willy Wonka, like everlasting gobstopper. ~~Like, ~~like an [00:25:00] edible that like just keeps going

Mike: We lost you, Mark. Are you there?

Darrell: Mark, we lost audio. Quick pivot. ~~Uh, ~~edit here.

Mike: AI fix this

Darrell: AI fix this. He’s going to ChatGPT right now. How do you fix sound on-

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